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Personally, I find massage in those areas very helpful for lower back and hip pain. Good luck, abby. KarenL New Member. When I was in therapy, Mary my therapist would always ask me if I wanted a hug at the end of the session.

If I did that was fine, if I said no, she was okay with that too. And she always reminded me, anything I say or do you are not comfortable with, just say so and that in itself made me feel like I had some control over the situation.

Go with your gut. If the guy makes you feel creapy, probably a good reason for why you feel that way. I would feel the same way I would read all the previous posts and go with what you feel in your heart To me I would not like this Ya know?

I had a female Ob-Gyn make moves on me and I was horrified for weeks. I finally got over it and never went back either I do know how you feel Sandyz New Member.

I always get massages and they help a lot. They have done the tailbone area and the buttocks many times on me. Good luck. LauraC New Member.

I think maybe your therapist went too far. My son is a massage therapist. They are people just like anyone else, and some are more sensitive to the "personal space" of others.

You need to find someone who is sensitive to yours. Trust is important in a massage relationship or it it will be counterproductive. Trust your own feelings and find someone you feel comfortable with.

I've found that truly professional massage therapists will "ask" before going into an area of your body that is "private". They want you to be comfortable, know what they are doing, and why.

The only time I've had any problem was when I went to a male therapist. I have always gone to female massage therapists because I just feel more comfortable.

But, this particular time my niece got me an hour massage as a Christmas present at the Spa that she worked at.

He had no respect for keeping me covered or warm, and I had to keep pulling the very small towel he gave me up over me, and I was so cold and uncomfortable with him that my body tensed up all over, and I didn't enjoy it a bit.

Then while I was laying on my back, he whipped the towel completely off me in a heartbeat exposing every part of my body and began to massage my boobs and working his way 'down there'.

I felt totally humiliated, embarrassed, and angry. I got right up, told him I thought he was a predator preying on the innocence of his patients and abusing his position as a massage therapist, and that I was going to report him to his licensing agency.

And I did. Apparently, there had been previous complaints about this guy, but they hadn't done anything about it until they had received several complaints about the same thing.

He ended up losing his license. I would encourage you to go with your instincts. You have to be able to trust your massage therapist and surrender your body to their capable hands, and in order to do this you must feel comfortable and safe.

Otherwise, you are wasting your money and not receiving the wonderful benefits of massage. For the past many years, I have gotten my massages from two women who live together and are infact lesbians.

However, although I am "straight" when it comes to sexual preference, I do not have a problem with gays. These two gals are extremely professional, are licensed and certified in a multitude of healing practices, and are sensitive to the clients feelings and needs.

I am always covered with a warm heating sheet which they roll up and down depending on what areas of my body they are massaging. One works on the upper half of the body while the other works on the lower half.

They have a beautifully decorated room in their home that they use for massage therapy with relaxing, mystical music playing, scented candles for light, a waterfall that sounds like a soft, babbling brook, and use various essential oils for healing and aromatherapy.

They know all my various ailments, and anytime they want to use a different type of massage on me--they talk to me about it first, tell me how they do it, the cost if extra, and how it benefits the body.

They are the Best massage therapists I've ever gone to, and when I leave there--I feel like I'm floating on a cloud! And though they give me a thorough massage from the crown of my head to the tip of my toes--they have never touched my "privates", and always make sure that I am covered, warm, and comfortable.

Plus, they educate me on how I can do self-massage and the various essential oils that help with different parts of the body, the mixtures to use, and what benefits they produce.

Something I can do at work and after I get home from work. It has been extremely beneficial to me. This is what we call "busted therapy".

I am a licensed psychotherapist with 30 years experience, and I never hug or touch my clients unless they make the initial gesture.

Many come and hug me after a session; others come over and give me a hand-hug. Some just reach out and touch me on the shoulder. Massage is such a wonderful, feel-good, beneficial therapy for us, and I hope you find a good therapist that not only gives good massage in a relationship that you feel totally relaxed, comfortable, and safe in, but one that teaches you how to do self-massage and reflexology in between therapy appointments.

Please don't vex yourself wasting any more energy on this guy. And set up an appointment with one that feels right for you.

Later, if you think that massage in more private areas of your body would be beneficial, you can talk it over with your massage therapist.

Blessings to you, Carol Over the past two years I have had regular massage therapy, at first with a variety of therapists and for the past 22 months or so with the same one.

My present therapist works on my buttocks through the drape over me. It allows her to knead the areas that are very knotted while remaining unquestionable in her professionalism.

This is something that I really appreciate. At the previous center I went to I saw several therpists, which is why I left, and none of them attempted to work on this area.

Since it is so knotted and painful for me I am happy that my current therapist does this. Someone mentioned the seinfield episode with george and the therapist.

I had a female masseuse and I had to ask her to do my butt. It is the one thing that hurts the most and she never would do it.

Then after I asked her to she did it that one time and had to be asked every time I needed it done. I said, don't you feel comfortable doing buttocks?

But I think she was a little leary. I know it's been a few days since this was posted, but I hope that the advice you received here helped to clarify things for you, TK I agree with everyone else- what you see is not normal affection- in fact it's quite creepy.

This boy has obviously learned to be like this with his mom- she has not put limits on their physical contact OR given him clear rules and boundaries on other things either.

I feel badly for this kid, but I can definitely understand why it's difficult for you to stomach his behavior. Let's face it, undisciplined kids of any age are obnoxious- when they become teenagers, it only gets worse.

And because you love his mom, it's easy for you to view him as the tyrant and her as the victim here Whether or not Mom means it, she has essentially trapped her son into looking to her for all his needs.

It's up to the parent to guide the child and set limits for them, and she hasn't. It seems that she has used him to fulfill some of her longing for affection as well.

Now she has someone you so she doesn't "need" him anymore, and he sees that. Imagine how lost and hurt he feels- I'm surprised he is civiI to you not that this is your fault at all!

I really think that moving in is a baaaad idea. I can hear that you care about this woman, but she obviously has some very deeprooted issues. Unfortunately, what you are seeing may just be the tip of the iceberg.

I have a 17 year old son and a 13 year old daughter. I do like to go up to my son's room before he goes to sleep- he yells,"Mom, I'm going to bed!

This is "normal" physical interaction with a teen boy and his mom. In fact, it's pretty much our only physical contact- he's not big on hugs anymore and that's fine with me- I respect that as part of his becoming a man.

I advise you to tell this woman that she needs to get herself and her son some serious counseling. Then I would "run screaming into the night" for sure!

You sound like a nice, intelligent, interesting guy- you will find someone who is emotionally stable and can offer you a healthy relationship :.

Good luck- don't get caught up in the "don't leave me" trap- you will be glad to be free of this in the long run. Have you talked with her about all this?

Anybody who says "My kid always comes first" is giving a "red flag. Welcome to my world, only difference is I DID move in! Her 14 year old used to parade around only in his VERY short boxers, very easily seeing his privates bouncing as he walks.

She too would parade around in a very short PJ nightie that when she bent over you can see everything. I have finally requested for him to always be dressed when I am home and for her to wear something more appropriate when he is home.

He looks 16 or 17 but has just turned When I first started coming over a year ago, I quickly noticed the intimate hugs and kisses on the lips, the saw him actually lower his hands to her waist then rear end..

One night her and I were just laying in bed watching TV. Both of us under the covers, her son comes in and practicaly dry humps her while he is wearing just his PJ bottoms.

Kissing her on the lips and neck saying "I love you mommy". I voiced my uncomfortableness with this and it never happened again.

Now its just a quick kiss on the lips and hug. I once walked in on them in her bedroom BOTH laying on the bed. He was in his PJ bottoms, I think on top of the covers and she was under the covers sitting up.

The thing is when I walked he quickly jumped out of the bed and first layed on the oppoisite side of the bed on the floor face down.

Obviously hiding his hard on. I look at her face and she is extremely red and embarrassed smiling. During this time SHE tells me she needs more ice water and hands me her cup of already filled ice water.

I say you dont need anymore you have a full cup. Obviously she was trying to get rid of me. Finally after a few minutes he is able to stand and he leaves the room.

After that we just went to sleep. She constantly goes into his room at least times a night. Sometime before we go to bed and sometimes after we are already in bed.

His room is right accross from hers, she will shut his door every time and will shut her door sometimes.

Just recently I asked her to leave the doors opne and so far she has and she has cut down the number of times she goes in there.

I have started telling him "we are going to sleep now and locking our door, go tell your mom goodnight so she doesnt have to get up later".

So far this has worked out. There is no discipline from her for anything that he does not do! When he is sitting on the bed and she goes in there to say goodnight he nestles his head into her large breasts after kissing her and says "I love you mommy" with a smile on his face!

There is no talking to her without her defending herself with him, or defending him all the time and then I always get the silent treatment for 2 or 3 days.

She knows I am uncomfortable about their closeness but continues to kiss on lips and wear next to nothing when they say goodnight so he gets a good feel of her body when they hug.

I was not brought up this way and its getting more difficult each week that passes. I love her very much but its killing me inside.

Her eyes cant lie They use to go into the bathroom when each other was showering. She says we only have 1 bathroom so when someone has to shower we dont lock the door.

Or I have have caught him going into her room just as she is getting out of the shower so he catches her naked..

OH I thought I had the door locked! Of course when I am in there and he didnt know I was, while she was getting undressed a few times she would slam the door on him and yell to knock first..

All just a show for me. I do not have a probelm with a mother being close to her son.. He should respect her and she should respect him and his privacy..

I feel that this will be going on for several years to come.. I am terrified about that. I can't deal with it that long.

One day everything will come out of my thoughts and out of my mouth and either she will throw me out or understand what I am feeling and HOPEFULLY let me help her teach him some responsibility, respect and discipline.

I feel VERY sorry for this young man.. ANY comments would be helpful!! I understand how you must feel and have a situation of my own that I would like some response to.

I have a 18 year old step son who demands his mom give him massages in his room on his bed. Before we married I have seen her go in his room and climb on top of him on his bed and proceed to massage him.

He came home from college over the last two weeks. One day after I was done shoveling snow I went in the house and found him lying on his mother and my bed.

He had his mothers robe over his face and his mother was giving him a full body massage. My wife motioned for me to be quiet, so I left the room to sit in the living room.

After an hour I went in the room. She was lying next to him on the bed and still massaging him. This creeped me out What do you think?

I have explained to her how I feel about it, but she said she would not stop. She also lets her son sleep with her on occassion. I am involved with a 44 y.

I have not been introduced to her son yet but I feel the time is soon. We have been seeing one another for 7 months now and just recently she has been telling me that she and her son are close.

She explained that she gives her son massages, foot rubs, head rubs, will lay in bed with him to sleep or watch t. I said this type of behavior seems inappropriate for a 25 y.

I asked her if the girl friend knows about this and she said yes. The mother had a conversation with the girlfriend and said to her that if you are going to be involved with my son, this is what you have to except.

We are in love with one another and have recently been discussing marriage. I have not met her son and I know that this behavior makes me uncomfortable.

Some Mother and Son relationships are strange to say the least. Here's a nutty Mom for ya My old tennis girlfriend who was a single Mom of at the time a 16 year old Son use to tell me about her shower sessions with her Son.

She would openly confide in me that their most productive time together would be when he would join her in the shower naked of course and she would treat his back acne, and talk about girlfriends, school, his guy friends, homework and everything going on in his life.

She acted as though it was no big deal! Strange I know I didn't even know how to react, as at 1st i thought she was kidding. I don't think they had strange bed arrangements, but she did tell me that he would often get large erections and she of course just ignored them as she cherished their "shower time" as she would put it.

I remember thinking that

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